Talk to a Pilot
Submitted by Jim Hogue on Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:04pm.
Talk to a Pilot.
Could the official 9/11 theory be true?
This new thread is for the purpose of soliciting facts and opinions from commercial pilots re the events of 9/11/01.
I am hoping that they will explain the SOP in the cockpit re hijackings, and how the official story differs from or conforms to reality.
Also, anyone in a position to know the SOP of the passenger ID system in effect on 9/11, and the likelihood of 19 Arabs successfully boarding the planes with fake IDs is welcome to comment. Since the official story is that they used fake IDs, then why is there no record of such people on the planes through the passenger lists or on camera? In other words, why is the number of passengers-accounted-for consistent with the number that boarded the plane? There is no accounting for the supposed terrorists.
Please comment factually on the assertion from 9/11 investigators that all passengers were accounted for except the supposed 19 Arabs. If this is true, then there is an absurd impossibilty to the official theory. This absurdity is further highlighted by the appearance of some of the hijackers on European television.
This thread could become an important document. Please respond with this in mind. Your privacy will be respected by me and the webmaster. Second hand information is welcome only if you supply us with the source, which will remain confidential if so desired.
You may call me with information at 802 456 1123 or email me at jrhogue1@yahoo.com. I am hoping for large numbers of simple responses from those with appropriate credentials. The more pilots willing to go on record, the easier it will be for others to go on record. I have worked with FBI whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, in her efforts to bring out the truth, and this is another way to forge ahead. These efforts will join hers.
Looking forward,
Jim Hogue
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Jim,
I can personally confirm that in the two or three days immediately after 9-11, the alleged hijackers' names failed to appear on the online passenger manifest lists. Sparked by instant skepticism and various articles / links, I went there myself. The URL's were definitely legitimate.
Two or three days later, the lists disappeared entirely.
It's one of those things I would regard as potential internet rumor if I had not seen it with my own eyes.
regarding the passenger lists not having Arab names, those seeking to debunk that use this evidence:
http://graphics.boston.com/news/packages/underattack/images/aa_flight_11...
Thus, regardless of names on official lists, here they are, reported by the Globe.
One person I know mentioned that Betty Ong and others like her probably filled in or confirmed the descriptions of the seating of the passengers & hijackers.
To me this whole issue is a weaker point because they can almost say anything about why the names aren't on the list, i.e., it was a matter of national security, it was considered dishonorable to put the names of the murderers in with the victims, they used fake names, etc.
I'm not a pilot, but to me, the much stronger points -- the standdown, WTC7, war games, etc. -- deserve more attention than anomolies that 'officials' can easily explain away for the media. Even the issue of the C-130 flying around the Pentagon and over Penn is in need of more examination. Why was it that a C-130 could get to the crash site within 1 minute but fighters couldn't? It's also an issue where 'officials can say anything' to explain it away, as they have here:
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/C130sawF772P.html
But that reality -- that a C-130 was there, doing nothing, it would seem, underscores the absurdity that fighter jets couldn't get there. That issue is also discussed on a forum here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N28751B9C
(caveat about that website in general, since it promotes pods and missiles, but the post is the best I've seen).
Rob's Reply - Thanks for sharing this, friend. Anyone have any comments?
Thanks for this. This survey is not being taken because it is the easiest stand-alone evidence. Building 7 fills that bill. I'm soliciting evidence from pilots, because, to my knowledge, no-one has done that yet. And the official story: that all the pilots were overcome without time to signal ground control must either be debunked or explained - by pilots. This would prove that no hijackers were on the planes, and that the REAL ID is being foist on us for a reason other than security.
Jim
Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits
by Jim Heikkila
Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 9/11.
The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land, completely without a pilot at the controls.
They are intelligent planes, and have software limits pre set so that pilot error cannot cause passenger injury. Though they are physically capable of high g maneuvers, the software in their flight control systems prevents high g maneuvers from being performed via the cockpit controls. They are limited to approximately 1.5 g's, I repeat, one and one half g's. This is so that a pilot mistake cannot end up breaking grandma's neck.
No matter what the pilot wants, he cannot override this feature.
The plane that hit the Pentagon approached or reached its actual physical limits, military personnel have calculated that the Pentagon plane pulled between five and seven g's in its final turn.
The same is true for the second aircraft to impact the WTC.
There is only one way this can happen.
As well as fully autonomous flight capability, the 767 and 757 are the ONLY COMMUTER PLANES MADE BY BOEING THAT CAN BE FLOWN VIA REMOTE CONTROL. It is a feature that is standard to all of them, all 757's and 767's can do it. The purpose for this is if there is a problem with the pilots, Norad can fly the planes to safe destinations via remote. Only in this flight mode can those craft exceed their software limits and perform to their actual physical limits because a pre existing emergency situation is assumed if this mode of flight is used.
[Google "Raytheon Global Hawk system"]
Terrorists in fact did not fly those planes, it is totally and completely impossible for those planes to have been flown in such a manner from the cockpit. Those are commuter aircraft, not F-16's and their software knows it.
Another piece of critical evidence: the voice recorders came up blank.
The flight recorders that were recovered had tape that was undamaged inside, but it was blank. There is only one way this can happen on a 757 or 767. When the aircraft are commandeered via remote control, the microphones that go to the cockpit voice recorder are re routed to the people doing the remote controlling, so that the recording of what happened in the cockpit gets made in a presumably safer place. But due to a glitch in the system on a 757/767, rather than shutting off when the mic is redirected the voice recorder keeps running. The voice recorders use what is called a continuous loop tape, which automatically re passes itself past the erase and record heads once every half hour, so after a half hour of running with the microphones redirected, the tape will be blank. Just like the recovered tapes were. Yet more proof that no pilot flew those planes in the last half hour.
Eight of the hijackers who were on those planes called up complaining that they were still alive. I'd bet you never heard about our foreign minister flying to Morocco and issuing an official apology to the accused, did you? No, terrorists did not fly those planes, plastic knives and box cutters were in fact too ridiculous to be true. Any of the remaining accused have certainly been sought out and killed by now.
Our information IS controlled
The cell phone calls from the aircraft could not have happened. I am a National Security Agency trained Electronic Warfare specialist, and am qualified to say this. My official title: MOS33Q10, Electronic Warfare Intercept Strategic Signal Processing/Storage Systems Specialist, a highly skilled MOS which requires advanced knowledge of many communications methods and circuits to the most minute level. I am officially qualified to place severe doubt that ordinary cell phone calls were ever made from the aircraft.
It was impossible for that to have happened, especially in a rural area for a number of reasons.
When you make a cell phone call, the first thing that happens is that your cell phone needs to contact a transponder. Your cell phone has a max transmit power of five watts, three watts is actually the norm. If an aircraft is going five hundred miles an hour, your cell phone will not be able to 1. Contact a tower, 2. Tell the tower who you are, and who your provider is, 3. Tell the tower what mode it wants to communicate with, and 4. Establish that it is in a roaming area before it passes out of a five watt range. This procedure, called an electronic handshake, takes approximately 45 seconds for a cell phone to complete upon initial power up in a roaming area because neither the cell phone or cell transponder knows where that phone is and what mode it uses when it is turned on. At 500 miles an hour, the aircraft will travel three times the range of a cell phone's five watt transmitter before this handshaking can occur. Though it is sometimes possible to connect during takeoff and landing, under the situation that was claimed the calls were impossible. The calls from the airplane were faked, no if's or buts.
I hope I made sense, if you have questions I will respond if possible. If I do not respond, please research this out yourself, search the Boeing site, search the DARPA site, search where you have not searched before. Some of the information is classified and leaked by individuals, and it is also being scoured from the net. I have all of the original documents on my computer to safeguard against this.
Please do not ignore this, because only Norad has the flight codes for those aircraft, we did 911 to ourselves. Hitler had the Reichstag, we have 911. If 911 proves to not be enough to make the US citizenry set aside its rights for safety, the people who did 911 most certainly have access to nuclear material. 911 must be exposed for what it was before that material is used.
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UPDATE: RESPONSE
I, a Military Occupational Skill 68G, and a Federal Aviation Administration Certified "Privileged" Pilot, as well as an FAA Certified "Privileged" Mechanic, will witness to the overall accuracy of this letter by Jim Heikkila; A testimony, pertaining to equipment (parameter limits both governed and ungoverned), discussing capabilities/limitations of flight control systems and structural performance.
Additionally, MOS33Q10 describes wire and/or transmitted data interplay, consistent with PIC (Pilot In Command) responsibilities of flight safety, as PIC is expressly required to KNOW that:
FAA certified pilots, expressly embodies the PIC with full responsibilities of all flight safety explicit ALSO, as a Licensed Radio Operator in accordance with FCC communication rules, critical concerns of electronic interference with flight critical systems, and other capabilities/limitations of electronic devices [Original Equipment or not] as part of total onboard equipment.
To include such knowledge necessary, concerning functionality and limitations of hand-held, non-amplified, standard private cellular phones, un-repeated through nonexistent equipment, not installed aboard commercial aircraft of the time. These purportedly "private" cellular calls MUST therefore be considered a hoax (not real).
Of utmost importance, so please publish and disseminate to all concerned:
I hereby challenge all other pilots, those who have accepted the gift of wings and a duty to their trusting passengers, for remaining silent before the ears of humanity pertaining to a dangerous delusion, and thus allowed to permeate that same humanity, concerning the skies over the eastern region of North America, September 11, 2001.
Because of this general silence, I can no longer accept these people as MY true brethren, nor the FAA as a legitimate regulatory body who's utmost concern has been "human safety", or so declared. That because of this ongoing silence (licensing body intimidation?), I hereby deny the jurisdiction of the Federal Aviation Administration to "Privilege" my right to command and enjoy the apparatus of flight. None-the-less, I retain my natural duty and responsibility to the safety of my person and passengers, including those otherwise bound to Earth.
I so challenge other pilots to consider the appropriateness of allowing an administration to "License" them as well, while in conflict with this overriding duty to human safety.
I so retain the FAA issued paper "proof" of my pilot training, and formal recognition as competent airman, merely as historical artifact. The "authorizing" seal and signature displayed on these artifacts, is no longer considered by me as lawfully valid, nor am I bound by the terms outlined through such a charter.
The first implicit duty of Pilot In Command (that of safety), remains unchanged.
To be absolutely clear, I will hold in contempt, any man or woman who considers themselves' "Pilot" for taking to the controls of air worthy machines, yet does not vocalize a clear stand upon such an underlying principal, that of a pilot dependent upon truth.
I do not recognize the justice of liars "owning" the sky, for one can not retain their wings soaring upon an air of untruth. This will merely ground all of humankind, and THAT is not my destiny.
A pilot,
Erin Sebastian Myers
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